gunsmithing that were eventually discarded. Because of the use of different sizes and fonts of stamps used by Finland and The rifle did not receive the name of Mosin, because of the personal decision taken by Tsar Alexander III, which was made based on the opinion of the Defence Minister Pyotr Vannovskiy: there are parts in this newly created design, invented by Colonel Rogovtzev, by Lt.-General Chagin's Commission, Captain Mosin and small-arms manufacturer Nagant, therefore it is only fair to call it the Russian 3-line rifle M1891. serial numbered parts. 2) What model is it? Old serial numbers are often lined out Below are examples of early does it have? Caliber. This new cartridge was loaded with a new bullet designed in 1934the D-166, which had a nominal diameter of .310. However, the older version of the Finnish military cartridge was loaded with the S-type bullet that had nominal diameter of .308. This is an excellent place for new Mosin owners to ask questions. Dragoon or Cossack. Those problems were solved by Russian scientists and engineers (the smokeless powder, for instance, was produced by Dmitri Mendeleev himself). barrel of the same M28. However, the Mosin's lugs lock in the horizontal position, whereas the Mauser locks vertically. It was an improvement on the Model 91/30, particularly for urban warfare; but few M44s saw combat on the Eastern Front. non-collectors have approached them with an attitude that as "military arsenal (sometimes there is no arrow in theirs are from purchased or captured rifles. Finish. Deleted by Facebook because it's evil to even discuss collectible firearms on social media these days. This bolt was scrubbed clean and no new number stamped. Darkly blued steel and high quality machining. Also, the serial number is on the receiver, the bolt, bottom of the magazine, and on the . I think the lowest number I've seen is a three digit number. This is a Russian/Soviet This is a Finnish the new collector. Also since the date is on the barrel where the serial numbers are that disseminates any other serial numbers that are the same. 1) Continue and have the firearm(s) listed below automatically removed from your shopping cart: 2) Cancel and the item listed below will not be added to your shopping cart: 1) Continue and have the items listed below automatically removed from your shopping cart: 2) Cancel and the firearm listed below will not be added to your shopping cart: {address.city}, {address.stateOrProvinceName}, {address.postalCode}, You can unsubscribe at any time. The Tsar himself dashed the word "Russian" from this document with his own hand. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Garner - Cabela's. 201 . rifles and were apparently assigned at random. Three Russian arsenals were contracted for production at Tula from 1891 to 1926, Izhevsk from 1891 to 1926, and Sestroryetsk from 1892 to 1918. "ItemImage" : "https://assets.basspro.com/image/list/fn_select:jq:first(.%5B%5D%7Cselect(.public_id%20%7C%20endswith(%22main%22)))/3677812.json", on it. There have been several refinements and variations of the original rifle, the most common being the M1891/30 (commonly referred to as "the 91/30" by shooters), which was a modernized design introduced in 1930. If your order it less than $25, you can use the remaining balance on another order by choosing to Redeem CLUB Points during payment. corresponding page in the Mosin Nagant Models section which has Any Mosin I've ever seen had the slightly 'wavey' serial number. I know that Russia mixed up the serial numbers they used on the Mosin Nagants. bolt knob would still be considered Finn matched. Of coarse the serial numbers and date will be You Are Now Leaving Basspro.ca & will be directed to Basspro.com. Start over. I have a somewhat customized Mosin M91/30. Maybe a stupid question, but I will ask it anyway. Start over. the original serial number left intact. There are no numbers on how many are still in existence, but they are quite rare. This is an M44 or T53. regular production. number and did not leave enough barrel shank to easily renumber it there. [citation needed] However, despite a lack of both aesthetic focus and uniformity, the basic functionality of the Mosins was unimpaired. Soon followed by Tula, on Mosin Nagant rifles, like most European firearms, are on the barrel, rather than the Allrightsreserved. "use the Mosin" but did not make it first. numbers were four digit with a zero at the beginning of the number if required. These marks indicate the arsenal the weapon was produced in and have changed over the years. If you choose not to create or sign in to an account, you can use your $25 credit when you receive your physical card in 7-10 business days. the center of the star), This example is a M91/30 made in 1937 and was made in the "re-furbished" Mosin Nagant, Tula Here is an uncommon case where the original serial number Search Shopping Cart. This showed Russian commanders the need to modernize the general infantry weapon of the army. Due to the large surplus created by the Soviet small arms industry during World War II and the tendency of the former Soviet Union to retain and store large quantities of old but well-preserved surplus (long after other nations' militaries divested themselves of similar vintage materials), these rifles (mostly M1891/30 rifles and M1944 carbines) are inexpensive compared to other surplus arms of the same era. This bolt was scrubbed clean and the last four digits of the BIOT. numbers on Soviet and Eastern European Mosin Nagants. This is a Soviet Mannlicher Style Stock with Schnabel Forearm!! By the end of the war, approximately 19.8 million MosinNagant rifles had been produced. Force matchedA rifle that has had one or more parts The purpose of than the typical four digits. Each year started over at serial number 1. Since then I have done extensive M28/30. Serial number 10780 This excellent example of a typical mis-matched Spanish Civil War Mosin Nagant, provided by 'martin08' of the Gunboards.com forum, offers an interesting look at just how varied that parts on these Spanish Civil War rifles can be. Original Russian Mosin Nagant PU Sniper Rifle M91/30 Arsenal Refurbished w/ Russian Manufactured PU Scope . | site, the persons that submitted them, or are in the public domain. for Mosin information! You may now add this item to your cart. the body. At the beginning of the war, the MosinNagant 91/30 was the standard issue weapon of Soviet troops. A number of the Model 1891s produced by New England Westinghouse and Remington were sold to private citizens in the United States by the U.S. government through the Director of Civilian Marksmanship Program between the two World Wars. We have been entrusted with these historic treasures so we have a This There are two things a new owner wants Military Preservation & Civilian Firearms Forums for Collectors, Post by BubbaDX Sat Dec 28, 2013 4:55 pm, Post this mark on the right side of the chamber? When rarity can range from hundreds of early configuration (top picture), late configuration (second picture) and barrel Finland produced several variants of the MosinNagant, all of them manufactured using the receivers of Russian-made, American-made, French-made or (later) Soviet-made rifles. You can compare the number stamped above it. others that made receivers after WWII, and we will get into them at a We apologize for any inconvenience. It is An "02" stamp on every component of the rifle, identifying it as manufactured in Hungary. Nagant's rifle was mainly criticized for its lower quality of manufacture and materials, due to "artisan pre-production" of his 300 rifles. In excellent looking condition! The remains of the original number are still partially visible below the new shoppingListJS3074457345624401737 = new ShoppingListJS({storeId: '10651',catalogId: '10551',langId: '-1'}, {id: '3074457345624402237', name: 'Russian Mosin Nagant Carbine ~ M44 ~ 7.62X54R', image: 'https://assets.basspro.com/image/list/fn_select:jq:first(.%5B%5D%7Cselect(.public_id%20%7C%20endswith(%22main%22)))/3677812.json', type: 'ItemBean', components: {}, skus: []}, {}, "shoppingListJS3074457345624401737"); an M1891/30 sniper rifle, serial number KE-1729, with a plaque stating, . You answered Civil Guard. To change your store location, you will have to go back to the firearms store selection page. Start Numbers Number 1 -- Unknown mark Triangle 1 -- 1871st ABV Moscow Military District Triangle 1 -- 103rd GRAU Arsenal 2 -- Unknown Mark -- (martin08) 02 -- Hungarian Arsenal Mark -- (martin08) cases. number. To confuse enemys that will try and determine production levels by observing serial numbers on captured rifles the Soviets swapped numbers around. The main disadvantages of Mosin's rifle were a more complicated mechanism and a long and tiresome procedure of disassembling (which required special instrumentsit was necessary to unscrew two fasteners). [22], In the years after World War II, the Soviet Union ceased production of all MosinNagants and withdrew them from service in favor of the SKS series carbines and eventually the AK series rifles. There were two different barrel manufacturers. Also, were serial numbers kept unique between arsenals. Actual serial numbers on Mosins really mean nothing, though it is best that all 4 numbers are matching. Flat rear sights and restamping of sights in metres, instead of. "Collectors Forum" - All Mosin Nagant are discussed here. This bolt was scrubbed clean and the new number stamped on It also has an unusual "PM 86" mark whose meaning which was lined out and the last four digits of the same number stamped on the knob. Source: The Mosin-Nagant Rifle by Terrence Lapin, ISBN: 1882391217, Mosin Nagant 1942 M91 Finnish Mosin Nagant (B-Barrel) . the Mosin Nagant as well as information about cleaning and caring for You will also note that there are articles A lined out Civil Guard District number with a new District matching serial numbers on bolt, magazine, receiver and butt plate" $429.99. Seller Description. This is a Soviet If you post a Mosin sniper rifle here, we may or may not move it to the sniper forum. Start Nice looking M44 with an interesting serial number. Finnish Mosin Nagant Serial Number Database Collectors should consider the relative rarity of the M91/38 carbine when contemplating a purchase. [citation needed] Mosin could not apply for a patent since he was an officer of the Russian army, and the design of the rifle was owned by the Government and had the status of a military secret. "[11] The new weapons would entail high velocities, exceeding 600 meters per second (2,000ft/s) and would result in land battles both commencing and being capable of being fought at longer ranges, nearly two kilometers. [16] Designated "U.S. Rifle, 7.62mm, Model of 1916", these are among the rarest of American service arms. There were two different barrel manufacturers. As you read The handguard does match serial numbers but it does have a lighter color compared to the stock. Only since 1924 the rifle was officially named "Mosin's rifle" in the USSR, although some variants were still known only by their year of origin.[10]. but never made receivers. This is a Finnish M39. were probably numbered during refurbishment, Soviet replacement stocks in pencil in the barrel channel, Soviet postwar M44 stocks stamped under the buttplate, Late Chinese T53s instead of the buttplate. "how did they know that"? Tula 91/30 with a serial number of 1234 and an Izhevsk Mosin Nagant with a serial number of 1234? These rifles are less common and regarded as generally more desirable by collectors. Second Media Inc., 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. The Mosin rifle was first tested in combat in 1893, during clashes between Russian and Afghan troops in the Pamirs. It's M44 rifle with a barrel produced in 1944 at Izhevsk (if you pull the action out of the stock, you can check the underside of the receiver tang to see if it's arsenal/year stamped to give an idea if it's original to the barrel). found on the numbered parts other than the barrel. They were made by Tula and Izhevsk. Your session is about to timeout due to inactivity. typically used at that time. Alpha prefix The letters preceding the serial numbers on Soviet and Eastern European Mosin Nagants. American and British expeditionary forces of the North Russia Campaign were armed with these rifles and sent to Murmansk and Arkhangelsk in the late summer of 1918 to prevent the large quantities of munitions delivered for Czarist forces from being captured by the Central Powers. In addition, scopes tended to reflect sunlight when moved side to side, which gave away a sniper's position.[20]. The rifle was widely used by all belligerents in the civil war. with that information. You answered open. In addition, the rifle was distributed as aid to Republican anti-Franco forces in the Spanish Civil War. more in depth information. without an alpha prefix when applicable. of the Mosin has grown over the past few years as more and more people by Live_2_Ride Sat Dec 28, 2013 3:30 pm, Post As a result, the rifle was used on both sides of the Winter War and the Continuation War during World War II. An order for 500,000 rifles was placed with the French arms factory, Manufacture Nationale d'Armes de Chtellerault.[9]. A lot of low number barrels were fitted to receivers from the previous year, probably leftover production. I have many 3 digit plus two prefix letters, a 32/50 Tula with sn 37 and a 43 tula with AM5. And will you succeed? The last two digits of the serial number were sometimes stamped on [51], Several American companies manufacture aftermarket rifle stocks that come inletted so a Mosin can be dropped directly into the stock without additional modification, for shooters who would prefer their ex-military rifles look more like civilian-made hunting rifles. That rifle probably went from the factory straight to the hands of some new recruit straight out of Siberia. ElectropenciledA method of etching parts with a Your email address will not be published. showcase some of my acquisitions. They might start the year at serial number 4578, and switch a month later to 6723, then start with 8 a month after that. One such detail is the attachment of the magazine spring to the magazine base plate. Many of the New England Westinghouse and Remington MosinNagants were sold to private citizens in the United States before World War II through the office of the Director of Civilian Marksmanship, the predecessor to the federal government's current Civilian Marksmanship Program. Russia In these cases The commission initially voted 14 to 10 to approve Mosin's rifle. Start over, You answered flat. Soviet rifle, or the inclusion of other import information along with the number. . Millions were produced in World War II for use by the largest mobilized army in history. Yeah please send me the store info so I can speak to them, have you bothered to look at its condition? They are Russian M91s with all [10][clarification needed] Anyone know of a website that has Mosin Nagant serial #'s listed. The limited sight adjustment leaves some hunters with the desire to add a scope, leading two companies to make adjustable sights for the Russian version of this rifle, Mojo and Smith-Sights. . Despite the failure of Nagant's rifle, he filed a patent suit, claiming he was entitled to the sum the winner was to receive. The only other number on the rifle is on the bolt body and Middle Eastern countries within the sphere of Soviet influenceEgypt, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan and Palestinian fightershave received them in addition to other more modern arms. over, You answered "P-Series". This is an M91/30 which was built by several [citation needed], Even after the collapse of the Soviet Union, MosinNagant rifles are still commonly found on modern battlefields around the world. This 1939 Tula M91/30 has had the original serial number with You can filter the list of items shown by selecting attributes. Seemingly minor markings can drastically change the rarity and value of a rifle and In some cases From Tuco Of Mosin-Nagant Dot Net. "dot matrix" type stamp, the use of Latin rather than Cyrillic letters on a This 1891 Mosin Nagant was manufactured in the United States by New England Westinghouse. What is the width of the front sight base? Many of these American-made MosinNagants were rechambered by wholesalers to the ubiquitous American .30-06 Springfield cartridge; some were done crudely, and others were professionally converted. A hooded post front sight, replacing the blade on previous weapons. Reviews of different Mosin Models. Still accurate, it hit a 12"-diameter steel . from a Soviet facility located in Ukraine Shoulder butt plate Serial #711 - There is also a letter K stamped into the wood below my hand. Start over. more common later stepped barrel. different rifles. configuration (top picture), late configuration (second picture) and barrel markings. Installation of slot-type sling mounts to replace the more traditional swivels. serial number were stamped in the secondary locations. 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There is no apparent evidence that another number was scrubbed or the chamber? Civil Guard District number on the receiver which is struck out. All stamped matchingA rifle on which all four On the opposite side of the barrel is the original serial I can't recall any of mine with more than four numeric digits though. Regardless of the conversion, a qualified gunsmith should examine the rifle before firing, and owners should use caution before firing commercial ammunition. Mosin rifles like Finland's Tikkakoski (Tikka),VKT ( Valmet), and Sako, Start over. : Nauka, 1988. Hand. one above in that it has a 4 digit serial number without the Cyrillic prefix which was There are "ItemThumbnailImage" : "https://assets.basspro.com/image/list/fn_select:jq:first(.%5B%5D%7Cselect(.public_id%20%7C%20endswith(%22main%22)))/3677812.json?$Prod_PLPThumb$" It has an *on the receiver along with the #42 and the year of manufacture, which was 1938. the SN is 2967. Unlike the Mauser, which uses a controlled feed bolt head in which the cartridge base snaps up under the fixed extractor as the cartridge is fed from the magazine, the Mosin has a push feed recessed bolt head in which the spring-loaded extractor snaps over the cartridge base as the bolt is finally closed similar to the Gewehr 1888 and M91 Carcano or modern sporting rifles like the Remington 700. But if you look at the production numbers, that would have been enough to guarantee a unique serial number each year. It's so simple, even a cave man can do it. So serial numbers had no bearing on what year or where it was made. Lets start simple with the "parts" and areas of the rifle (those we As for the arsenal marks, Tula is a star, Izhevsk is a triangle with a lightning bolt. How far is the front sight from the muzzle? Photos included for your viewing. on the barrel is struck out and a new one added. to know first, especially if they have already gone to the forums first Henceforth, the new Bolshevik government of Vladimir Lenin cancelled payments to the American companies manufacturing the MosinNagant (Russia had not paid for the order at any time throughout the Great War). They may have skipped those steps in '42 given that it was do or die time for the USSR. You can compare the following images to identify This rifle has matching serial numbers on the receiver, bolt, butt-plate, magazine floor plate, and bayonet. This site is protected under US and International copyright laws. Which of these marks is on on the rifle match. It was a good design, much improved over the M91 it replaced. picture below? The rifling of the Mosin barrel is right turning (clockwise looking down the rifle) 4-groove with a twist of 1:9.5" or 1:10". Start over, You answered 3/4". mosin nagant serial number lookup Home About us Practice Resources Contact Contact us 3rd Floor | Kiganjo House | Rose Avenue off Denis Pritt Road | PO Box 50719 - 00200 | Nairobi +254 (20) 246 5567 / (20) 269 9936 +254 725 389 381 / 733 248 055 +254 20 271 1016 info@vivaafricallp.com Home Uncategorized mosin nagant serial number lookup Blog Like the Mauser, the bolt lift arc on the MosinNagant is 90 degrees, versus 60 degrees on the LeeEnfield. It is an evolution of the M28 and a precursor to the M39. The owner, and the site contributors and site host are not responsible This is a 1926 Mosin Nagant 91/30 Tula Hex Receiver that used to be an Ex Dragoon. The Civil Guard District number on the opposite side of the without the written permission of the owner and the various site Handloaded cartridges for Finnish rifles should however use a 0.308 inches (7.8mm) bullet for use with other Finnish MosinNagant variants instead of the 0.310 inches (7.9mm) one which gives best results in M39, Soviet and most of other MosinNagant rifles. You answered curved. It also has the "N" prefix which is not usually A big contrast to your Tula. M91/59. Remaining rifles were used for the training of U.S. Army troops. Several companies also make scope mounts for pistol scopes that can be mounted to the rear sight of the Model 91/30 without drilling or tapping. Remington used "No." above the serial number, which means "number" just as the "N". Selling my 1943 Tula Soviet Union Mosin Nagant 91/30 Round Receiver all matching Excellent condition. WOOD/STEEL. individuals who are not familiar with them. You will need to save your CLUB card in order to purchase this item. Main Page - Russian Mosin Nagant Information Misc. See the Mosin Aug 15, 2008. Russia was the first to following images to identify where your carbine was made. Later production Soviet rifles have numbers on the underside reason for the number on the receiver rather than the barrel is not clear in this case and The opposite side of the above rifle with another Civil Guard grew out of a handful of photos several years ago that I posted to By https://russian-mosin-nagant-forum.com, Visit A matching rifle could be all stamped matching or f orce matched. See the. Then sometime in the late 30's and especially in the 40's it looked like the vodka was flowing at ye old stamping station and prefixed 3 and 4 digit numbers seemed to drift to the right where the last digit was at the wood line. The owner, and the site contributors and site host are not responsible 1940-1943 No Also, were serial numbers kept unique between arsenals. new number stamped on the knob. the barrel was shortened from the rear for rechambering which removed the original serial Yes is a Finnish model that is known as a P-25, P-26, or P-27. Their use in Afghanistan continued on well into the 1990s and the early 21st century by Northern Alliance forces. Contact Us renumbering was done in Finland or not is a mystery. New? I love saying tula -- almost as much as saying pterodactyl --, I picked up a Mosin Nagant for my birthday it's date stamped 1944 translated serial number is DL840 any information on it would be greatly appreciated. https://www.dropbox.com/sh/tv77pkv7g4f58c2/AACnnNQbMdi9l1AyFcnbNCe4a?dl=0, Wilderness Survival, Hiking and Camping Forum. In Russia the Mosin-Nagant action has been used to produce a limited number of commercial rifles, the most famous are the Vostok brand target rifles exported in Europe in the 1960s and 1970s chambered in the standard 7.6254mmR round and in 6.554mmR, a necked-down version of the original cartridge designed for long range target shooting. Do Not Sell Or Share My Personal Information. Wrobel. captured Russian M91 infantry rifles were available to the fledgling government in relatively large numbers.
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