Thanks for the update. The main reason Id choose Reed is that its harvest season complements the Hass. This is so fun! Pinkertons are very productive, especially considering that they are a smaller tree, and like Fuerte, Pinkertons also mature a bit earlier than Hass. for avocados. At first, I had a Hass in mind, but found out about the GEM and it sounded more like what I was looking for, especially with the columnar growing pattern. If ever back this way soon would compensate you gladly to do a quick evaluation of right and wrong approach here. We do not have a lot of wind problems where we are located, either. Also I was thinking of grafting Lamb Hass onto the Hass so I can extend that season. Isnt Sharwil a vigorous variety! 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I just planted a Sharwill which I found at Atkins, hoping that our Global Warming trend leans my way. But Im guessing. What do think of a Reed vs. Sharwil in temecula where it can both get too hot and too cold some avocados? Jan Boyce Avocado. Haha. Because Cayucos is so cool, Id stay away from B type avocados in general, including Sir-Prize. Also, avocado flowers are primarily pollinated by bees, and bees readily fly between trees that are 50 feet apart. Two main varieties on offer. A couple of practices to consider from the UC IPM page: Excess fertilization, especially with quick-release formulations, may increase persea mite numbers and damage during late spring and summer due to increased foliar nitrogen. What a find. Thank you for your wonderful blog! Or maybe scratch all those and go with GEM or Gwen? This is how your year in avocados could look. I completely understand and I agree. . What would you recommend? If you knew a lot about your soil, then you could make a better guess as to which rootstock is likely to perform best, but I wouldnt worry about that. I read your articles about pruning and also about hass being a great choice for a single tree. I sprayed today and will keep it up. Ive seen numerous examples of this throughout Southern California. Its nearly impossible, unfortunately. Robert. Its very disrespectful when people put such videos on YouTube or otherwise share such information online. That tree eventually did die. The Mexicola Grande avocado is the most frost-resistant of all avocado varieties. Im glad youre happy with your Zutano. Once you exclude the fiber, a whole avocado is simply 2.6 grams of net carbs. While Dusa is the global standard today, it does not perform best in all conditions with all scion varieties. Your description makes the tree and its fruit sound very appealing. But now with youtube it has been easier to see what can be grown up here. https://ucanr.edu/sites/alternativefruits/files/121265.pdf I feel really enthusiastic about it, and grateful for your advice. These are varieties that take a long time to get big enough to be useful as shade trees compared to other varieties. You might try spraying the undersides of foliage every week or so for a period in spring and/or summer to see if it makes a difference. Thanks for your feedback. Griswold in a 1945 article titled, The Hass Avocado. This was written when the green Fuerte was king of a young California avocado industry. made to the U.S. Mainland and beyond, with the eventual eye toward gaining approval to ship. I could do that! Designed by Elegant Themes | Powered by WordPress, If the only Hass avocados youve had are from the grocery store, then you have no idea. Miuch like Citrus, Palm and Catus mix. I named the tree Lamorinda after the area it is grown which is name referring to the 3 cities of Lafayette, Moraga and Orinda. My second choice would be Hass and Fuerte. I just cant say for sure. I have a friend down here in Southern California who also is very happy with his Zutano tree. Hass and Reed as numbers one and two are solid for me. If I didnt feel the need for lots of space, I would, no doubt. It means a lot to me! while studying all this, it really feels like I am from another planet)))))): temperatures are in Fahrenheit, not in Celsius, you have feet, not meters. Persea americana x 'Mexicola Grande'. Hi Greg, i live in north OC, and new to growing fruits in general. CA avocados like Lamb Hass don't do well in FL and vice versa. I would plant a Hass if I were you. Distinguishing characteristics of the Sharwil avocado include its size, shape, and color. The grove manager said he prefers Hass at no closer than 12 feet. All I can say is wow! 2. One, get only the hardier varieties, such as Fuerte, Bacon, Zutano, or Puebla. Based on other research, Id been drawn to trying a GEM avocado tree here in NoCal on the coast (near Ft. Bragg and Mendocino). Linda Pretty much. Heavy clay is the worst for Hass avocado trees, but if you have no other choice, create a raised bed or a mound with a 3-5 foot diameter to plant the tree on. So, right now I still want to plant two avocado trees))))) I still want to plant a Hass, but I havent decided on the second variety. I am curious what your recommendation and thoughts are for year around great tasting avocados from my backyard in Tustin. It will be a few years before I can say much about most of the Hawaiian varieties I am growing. On the other hand, if a tree doesnt have a heavy set and you want to try to prevent the few fruitlets that it has set from dropping, the best thing you can do is make sure it doesnt become stressed from heat or thirst. I have Lamb, Pinkerton, Reed, Mexicola Grande, Hass, Holiday and Ettinger. The mainland now accepts for resale, sharwil avocados, given the need for a great tasting avocado in winter. Whats Reed like? I hope to hear more updates from you. If I only have space for one avocado tree, could I graft several varieties to this one tree, or is this not recommended? Will the new leaves burn? This autumn, I decided to order more avocado trees from Brokaw. I wish I knew your yard in particular because there are always various microclimates within Sunset Zones and city limits, but unless youve got an unusually low and cold spot then these varieties should do fine. They will always stay true to who they are (unlike Hass, who with one whiff of heat or pressure shapeshift quicker than a Harry Potter character). Of course, they dont understand the function of that leaf litter. by Laurie Meadows. And one concern would be pairing a vigorous upright variety with a slow spreading variety. Bacon, Is there something I can do to prevent the drop, or is it just survival of the fittest? But just a few years later, in 1992, fruit flies ruined everything. More reliably available than Sharwil, GreyStar avocados have the same wonderful texture and delicious flavour, and a long season from December to June. The problem with Fuerte is that it tends to grow horizontally so youd have to be vigilant about training it up a stake and pruning as necessary. About the leaves, I think most people just think it looks messy. At least I think it is a Reed, they said it was and it definitely looks like one from all the pictures. About high-density avocado plantings: I visited a grove that has been doing it for decades and theyve found that the spacing that works in the long run depends on the variety. Thank you. Type A flowers. Once budwood is available without using the mother tree I will share more on the Lamorinda. Try to check out the frost patterns next time we get a cold night too. Very happy with my Zutano. Theyre really small. I read through your post on protecting avocados from the cold, so well be prepared for the cold nights next winter. Tree 1: Im really leaning towards a GEM. Make sure that you water the tree every day to retain the moisture, and remove it to an area that still gets sunlight during cold weather moths, but is protected from frosts and freezes (a large sunny room is perfect). They have been so helpful for me starting my garden. How does your Reed do through Sylmar summers? I just bought a house in Covina, CA, and Im looking to plant two varieties in the same area (about 10 apart) once our cold spell is over. Thats a fun project. Ive never had a tree-matured Sir Prize. No one even the owner knows what variety it is, but there is a lot of fruits on it. I grafted some Sharwils here and there in the spring, and theyve grown more than any other variety I grafted this year (including Fuerte, which people often talk of as being so vigorous). Plant a couple little vegetables in the spot to see how they do before planting new avocado trees. The fruit is the 'Hass' type, with a pebbly green skin that ripens off the tree to nearly black. Thank you. Hass avocado is perhaps one of the most famous avocado types and considered by many to be the best.The flavour is quite intense and the flesh is very creamy, perfect for guacamole.. Until the 1930s, Fuerte was the best-known variety in the USA, until Rudolf Hass, a green fingered postman, planted some avocado seeds for a small plantation.Hass then patented the tree he chose and it was later . Unfortunately, they do not have a webshop, but I was able to call them, and they spoke both French and English. Hi Robert, Wish Id read something like this a few years ago. Reed Avocado Greengold Avocado. I counted 51 fruits in this picture. There are other varieties that taste as good or possibly slightly better than Hass. (Then again I let mine hang until June.). I do know MacArthur avocados. Suggestions? And if the tree is small, you might actually need to deliberately remove some of the fruitlets for the trees own long-term health. And, green gold, very prolific, and a good pollinator. Read more here: http://www.avocadosource.com/CAS_Yearbooks/CAS_72_1988/CAS_1988_PG_195-207.pdf. Hi Greg, Its not the worst soil in the world, as many fruit trees as growing nicely here, but which types of Avocado you think would thrive best in these conditions clay-ish soil, can be quite wet in winter and hot and super dry in the summer? One has more green on it than the other. And such dense shade cloth (60%) right above the trees for the whole summer would be too much shade and would reduce growth. Would you still recommend a Hass and Reed for us? Where to find Sir Prize Avocados? In 1992, the USDA banned shipment of the Sharwil avocados after an oriental fruit fly larva was found in a Hawaiian packinghouse that processed Sharwil avocados and other local produce. The tree is supposedly over 40 and is a seedling with both Fuerte and Hass characteristics yet again the flavor has that tanginess only Fuerte has. Maybe not the best. Ill be visiting a mature high-density planting in a couple weeks and Ill pass along anything new that I observe, but the main long-term challenge for most growers with this style is keeping on top of the pruning. I saw his GEMs on Toro Canyon and they looked perfect and vigorous. I moved mine into a barrel. I wish I could visit that old Puebla. Such great information for gardening in San Diego! Taste Ive read is great. 96 9GreenBox - Pineapple Guava - 2 Pack 1,083 You can always try a Hass too, and just prune it to the size you want. . During the big freeze a few years ago, the temp got so low that it killed a lot of local avocados. My experience with Sharwil in my own yard and my observations of other Sharwils confirm that its not the most predictable bearer, unfortunately. You could try a different variety, but I doubt that would significantly change your results. The avocados have smaller seeds inside and therefore produces a significantly larger amount of flesh to eat than other avocado types. Of the more than 275,000 acres that nurture Mexican avocados, the hands-down favorite is the Hass avocado, with is creamy, nutty flavor. The Hass is a medium spreading tree, whereas the Reed is more upright in stature. Ive driven through Mendocino and farther north many times, but havent seen bearing avocados growing up there with my own two eyes. Those three trees would be my choice too, another benefit of the fuerte in the mix is that its a b type and you will get good pollination and more fruit set. Both can crop well as solo trees, and they have different harvest seasons, and they both are extremely high-quality in terms of eating. I already have lamb, fuerte, Mexicola, Pinkerton, Reed, wurtz, Sir prize. I think they can be really helpful if done well. Share a photo if you get a chance. I would love to grow one or graft a branch onto a tree I have after researching about how great the fruit tastes. Im watching them do so in my yard right now. So, I want versions that handle topping well or are naturally small. Florida's avocado trees grow to be between 30 and 65 feet tall. Thanks for the info. Please keep it up. The skin also gets some brown russetting. I could swear that I read somewhere that Reed trees will get very tall if left unpruned. Sharwil Avocado B flower type. We have acreage The Land located above Hilo, Hawaii, at 800 foot elevation. i have small seedlings of sir prize, stewart, lamb hass, and some hybrid unknown from home depot. The fruit is very similar to the Hass Avocado, except this variety is larger and has a longer shelf life. Im leaning toward Gwen or Reed for a fall producer, and Holiday, Pinkerton or Wertz for winter production. First propagated in 1911 in a California nursery, it got its name - Spanish for "strong" - after a particularly hard frost hit the area in 1913. Two months ago my Nabal (in SoCal) was also developing a lot of yellow leaves with brown veins, and falling off. Fruit may have a larger seed when grown in rainy areas. For your milder location though, this might not be important. 7 years ago. Theres a little more about my opinions on choosing avocado varieties in this post: https://gregalder.com/yardposts/avocado-varieties-for-year-round-harvest/. Great to hear! I would recommend buying a new and healthy tree within the next month and planting it straight away no keeping it for months on your deck first. Your area is definitely on the cool side, but actually not too much cooler than ideal for avocados in terms of high temperatures. Do you agree that GEM would be a good choice? As for growing a Sharwil tree in your yard, youll probably find that it wont be quite as productive as a Hass or Reed, but possibly more productive than a Fuerte. Option 2: Sir Prize. Have you received your trees? Theres no rush. I just dont understand it. reading on other forums, ive seen comments that its better in the long run to plant a smaller size tree (3 gallon +) compared to a larger 15+ gallon size tree.that the smaller size tree will out perform and out grow the larger gallon size in the future. SHIPPING. Is the white wash enough? Theyre hard to find these days. They're known to be exceptionally creamy. They have smooth, glossy skins and high water content. I just put down the mulch and leave it be. This is how I got to this blog, but I never found any mention of high density. I think, my garden is in the 10a zone. In August I managed to order more avocado trees directly from Brokaw (Spain). Id probably still go Fuerte. In fact nowadays growing mangos and bananas is becoming more common here whereas just a decade ago an avocado tree put you on the cutting edge of growing. The same occurred with my newly planted atemoya: the leaves turned black, and the tree dried to death. Or consider 'Lamb Hass,' a similar-size tree, hardy to 26 degrees, bearing 10- to 18-ounce Hass . My 15-foot Hass averages roughly 100 avocados per year, and Ive found that we need more than that during the Hass season. So I tried a Reed for the first time today from the farmers market. I wish I had time to make more videos. Best regards, But there are a lot of B types whose fruit I love so Im starting to keep my B types smaller or graft them into A types and eliminate their whole trees. Theyre rich in flavor and creamy in texture without any strings. Hi, i was gifted a Nabal Avocado tree for xmas and before i plant it in the ground, i was wondering what its growing habits are? Hass grow and produce great in other cool summer climates farther south, such as near Morro Bay. Thanks again for everything. When you put a thick layer of tree trimmings down, do you turn them to allow air to circulate? So I need to know the characteristics of other types of Avocado trees. Yes, there is nothing like finding those 100 year old avocado trees. It seems that Reed has the advantage in terms of fruit production. Ive watched some young trees in your area get zapped by cold every couple years recently. And along with Reed and Hass, Id have a great threesome in a backyard because Fuertes season starts a couple months before Hass. If I couldnt find a Reed, Id substitute with a Lamb. I saw a fruiting avocado tree for the first time in my life. If youre planting trees at six feet apart, you might find it necessary to remove every other tree after a handful of years. For example, they had Hass planted at 10 feet by 10 feet in 2004, but just topworked that block this spring, 15 years later, because it had become too costly to manage. Marin, known for cultivating new crops, also grew Isabella grapesthen sold the resulting wine to sea captains, off what is now Vineyard Avenue in Honolulu. As for the snow, we have had quite a bit of ice the last few weeks, and today it snowed in parts of the mountains, even in the valley (Pasadena/Rancho Cucamonga)! Weve got room for one, or maybe 2, avocados. You were right, Greg, they are the best!!!!!!!!!!! I would like to let you know how my adventure in avocado growing proceeds. Due to the protracted nature of avocado flowering in this region, all varieties had some degree of cross-over. https://ibb.co/BNxp1W8 The Sir Prize avocado is defined primarily by a distinctive ridge along one side which becomes less noticeable when the fruit ripens. Thanks for the good ideas. Im considered to be in zone 9, and yet my Reed does well. In the wild this means a range of flying and crawling insects, but in Western Australia this is . Hello Greg from Cyprus in Europe! Youve already got some great varieties growing there. TREE SIZES. This makes me very happy? We got a Hass today, and were planning to plant it tomorrow in the sunniest spot in our yard, which usually stays pretty warm, even when its chilly. Most people think Fuerte tastes better, but Bacon is a nice milder, sweeter avocado for the winter. Avocados growing up there with my newly planted atemoya: the leaves I! 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